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@kiv Hah gtk I haven’t worked that closely with Msft in a few years. Good move.

@cindie Product manager is a way more interesting (and much better comp) than project manager. I’d go read those job descriptions at the faangs. At Microsoft this role is called program manager and a product manager there is more like a product marketing manager everywhere else. You might also...

@cindie You should position yourself as a product manager - in demand, hard to find, and hard to define. Startup ceo founders often do this and can probably adapt to the roll in a company that they find vaguely interesting.