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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @copticman Yes. By 9-5, I didn't mean 9-5 exactly but a limited number of working hours in a day. This may be flexible or fixed as per the company and the position. And I understand that there might be needs in startups to work for longer hours but then there should be overtime payments for...
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @revmikez Good for you. But you sound young. Wait a few years and see if you are able to keep it up. But make sure that if you keep this pace up for say 10 years you own very huge stakes in whichever company you work in at that time and becomes the CEO, CTO, CMO something. Else it's not worth it...
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @derek777laforce I don't think that is the solution because then nobody will start companies in India in the first place. Already the biggest problem and the root cause for exploitation here is lack of jobs and this will probably worsen that root cause. I come from Kerala in India, where there...
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @abigaillin2001 True! But governments should proactively look into it.
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @saved2010 In my experieence it is not the large corporations that disregard employees' work life balance but smaller startups and firms. I htink 1. Supply > Demand is no justification for employers to mistreat theri employees. Plus supply will always be greater than demand in a country like...
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @shumpy Absolutely true. They should pay more for the extra hours you work. Companies also should have a responsibility to ensure that employees aren't carrying theri work home.
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @colinamey 'Make a name for yourself' only applies to the startup founders and stakeholders. If startups require someone to put in extra hours and effort, they must be rewarded with remuneration or stakes in the company. And yes corporates mostly ensure some kind of WLB. But opportunitites in...
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @carolyntormala Supply demand are factors in deciding payouts I agree. A person working 8 hours in India won't be paid as well as in Europe and overtime payments for those who work loner will be nowhere close. Let them pay us less but let them pay something! Also companies forcing employees to...
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @partyof9 Absolutely!
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @nazar345 I hardly think so. I think steps are required inboth directions. TO make sure that it is easy to set up companies in India and also to make sure that employees are treated well inthose companies. Both needs positive reforms. The advantages that make India a cheap labor destination with...
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @nazar345 Cheap labour will be true in India even with fixed working hours and extra pay for overtime work. I have worked in companies that feel that they own you for the pittance they pay you every month and can command all your time even on weekends. And these are not foreign cmopanies tha...
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @nazar345 By fixed working hours I didn't mean exactly 9-5 like in a governemnt office. But a fixed number of working hours.THat can be in any shift or timezone. Already teh big tech companies in India offer incentives to employees who work in night shifts and all. Even a nominal amount of...
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    @eileen7173 Absolutely!
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    9-5 must be 9-5 even in startups and must be legally enforced

    A lot of people complain about 9-5 jobs in India as too draining and leaving no room for personal lives. But I think this us because most 9-5 jobs in the private sector are actually 9- midnight jobs and sometimes worse. I've worked in companies, especially startups, that expect me to keep on...
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